akelta: The exercises I have selected are really simple but they can be incredible powerful and there is a depth to them. I find that by practising these exercises you can awaken sleeping abilities in your chakra and really uncover your strengths.
akelta: ok so this chat is interactive so we are going to be doing the exercises together and I will be asking for feedback so I can help you if you run into troubles. Also if you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
akelta: you will also need a volunteer from your spiritual family
akelta: it can be anyone you desire
akelta: I would suggest though the one that you have the strongest connection with
ChatHound: I brought 4 vessels with me, but not likely to be able to practice. Still, will learn!
akelta: LOL Chathoudn my record is holding a conversation with 24 demons at a time.. after 24 my brain starts to cross signals LOL but I got to 24! it does take practise though, which is why we start with one.
Kitsune: I'm going to work with my soulmate ^^
arianna: 24??? No way, I ask mine to take turns when they're more than 4 or 5 talking at the same time!
ChatHound: Will do that when I can practice it.
akelta: Lilin that actually is perfect, these exercises I give out to assist with bonding and it can help you establish a base of connection with your new friend
akelta: ok we are going to start with sight
LilinMira28: alrighty!
foxxettexox: yay!
akelta: I am going to explain a bit the levels of sight
Dalek_Faye: I can see clearly now the rain has gone.
akelta: There is psychic sight, which is where you pic up images with your third eye and they are transfered to your mind as images in the mind. Sometimes you will get flashes of images and pictures or see a mental image of your companion. This is your third eye taking the energies and translating them into images for you.
LilinMira28: that explains alot actually
akelta: There is astral sight, which is where your third eye has entered a more active stage of growth and you can shift your third eye to see in the astral plane. This is fun as you can see then moving around and interacting with each other, though describing this is unique as it is like you are seeing them with your eyes, but not with your eyes, not your physical eyes but your astral eyes, and sometimes the images can shift to your mind for translation depending on the level of your third eye. Astral viewing is one of the first stages to astral projection, where you cna have a LOT of fun with your companions.
akelta: Then there is physical sight, where you can actally see your spirit companions with your physical eyes and you see things like wavy lines, hazy shadows or even full manifestations where they lierally appear right in front of you.
kelta: ok these exercises are simple, but there is depth to their development and if you find they are easy let me know and I can tell you how to use waht you are getting to expand your ability
Noctifera: Akelta's chat for parastock last year was eally great, I am stronger with third eye sight than physical sight but I recall very easily working with physical sight after
her exercises
Noctifera: really*
arianna: yup, last year I saw my imp walking around
LilinMira28: Noc then this is exactly what i need! im new still and im willing to learn everything and anything
akelta: ok the first exercise is on spiritual sight.
akelta: I will be posting hte instructions, we will do this together and if you have any questiosn or need some help please ask away.
akelta: 1) Sit in a comfortable position and take in a few deep breathes and relax.
akelta: 2) Ask one of your spiritual companions to stand next to a wall in front of you.
Dalek_Faye: Wall..? There are no walls..
akelta: are you outside?
akelta: if there something they can stand against to act as a marker?
Dalek_Faye: No, just that there's stuff all around the walls lol.
akelta: *is
akelta: OH, they can stand in front of the stuff. it is more to act as a marker for you so you know where to focus your sight
arianna: I don't really have a good wall for this either.
arianna: lol
Dalek_Faye: In front of the door they go then.
akelta: doors are perfect!
akelta:
Focus your attention on your forehead regions and connect with your third eye. Once you are connected direct your third eye to the direction where you familiar is standing and try to locate them using your third eye.
akelta: First try to get an image of them in your mind. See them with your third eye.
LilinMira28: C is being a tease again >.>
akelta: we are doing an exercise in seeing spiritual companions.
Kitsune: I heard him say "yes, i am right there" clearly whaen I commented about it XD
akelta: That is awesome Kitsune! you have hearing as well!
akelta: focus on the location where they are and allow your third eye to scan their energies and create an image for you on what they look like. See them, what do you see? How do they look? What are they doing? Ask them to move and see if you can detect the movement? Pay attention to how you are feeling during this. Are you sensing their energy in a certain part of your body?
ChatHound: Wow...he has horns I didn't notice before.
akelta: Nice! I love horns * _ *
akelta: how is everyone doing?
DogStarRising: great
ChatHound: good! even with mom standing in the kitchen lol
Noctifera: I saw her in my mind's eye and she beckoned to me to come closer, so I stood up and walked over where I was then able to physically see her aura outline moving out of the wall
DogStarRising: I'm lighting a candle and tuning in to your exercise for a while
AuroraDragon: I am having some problems connecting to my third eye
ennaralee: i am horrible with seeing but I can sense him and get flashes on long blond hair flowing like he is shaking his head to help me focus on that
akelta: That is awesome Noc! that is the type of experiences and also developments of the exercise. it can go way beyond just seeing then but actually embracing their physical presence and interacting with them.
Noctifera: I saw her in my mind's eye and she beckoned to me to come closer, so I stood up and walked over where I was then able to physically see her aura outline moving out of the wall
DogStarRising: I'm lighting a candle and tuning in to your exercise for a while
AuroraDragon: I am having some problems connecting to my third eye
ennaralee: i am horrible with seeing but I can sense him and get flashes on long blond hair flowing like he is shaking his head to help me focus on that
OrderandChaos: One of your Nurses Noc? =O
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akelta: That is awesome Noc! that is the type of experiences and also developments of the exercise. it can go way beyond just seeing then but actually embracing their physical presence and interacting with them.
akelta: Awesome DogStar
akelta: Aurora, what are you feeling?
Kitsune: I can feel his energy and can see bits of what he looks like
LilinMira28: i just got a black line dart from the door to my closet
AuroraDragon: I'm not feeling anything really at the moment , it's hard to tap into
akelta: @Enna is sounds like you sense is strongest, one thing you can do is use the sense to sense his appearance and also sense his movement just like you are doing. Sense like that can be developed into sight.
Noctifera: I would say I usually have an easier time seeing my friends in the dark as I work a great deal in the shadows, so its always a treat when they manifest in the light as now
akelta: Nocs Nurses are amazing!! I have one and the intereactions have jsut been so profound and incredible!
Noctifera: for the record I asked my Noble Demoness to interact with me in this exercise ^_^
akelta: @Aurura where you asked your spiritual companion to stand try just gazing at the place and breathing and just focusing on your forhead and sensing the energies of your third eye.
Ymirson: hope we are not past this, but when I feel my companions I feel heat around their form
Ymirson: the heat tells me they want to bond or interact, cold if they do not.
Phantom_of_the_arts: I was thinking of adding a shop but first I need to find more vessels
Noctifera: Thats very interesting Ymirson, you are very in tune to them
cheesesandwitch: thats a good point ymirson, ive experienced that too
akelta: This is very true, alwasy ground and shield when doing any spiritual work great reminder Dalek!
arianna: ok, I can't see the spirit I've chosen. I asked him to walk from one place to another and I could feel the movement, but I can't see him. I see the air moving though. Like heat waves. I may have -for a split second- seen the energy of a hand.
polyana005: my human spirit companion has just given me 2 heat waves. What's the next part of the exercise, please?
akelta: @Enna that is awesome! you are getting impression of him. when you start to see and get images, ask them to move then and try to see if you can detect movement and see actions that they are taking.
Ymirson: yes I will see the waves too, or shimmers of energy as a transparency..
Noctifera: Over time when you develop on the path of energy sensing you can discern in much greater detail between spirits or entities, what they are conveying to you, and their unique source of energy
Phantom_of_the_arts: May I ask, is the exercise over?
Ymirson: as if something moving between myself and an object
LilinMira28: well...hes hding in my closet....
polyana005: heat wave like energy in the air - check, a sparkle - check, seeing in my mind's eye that he's been walking towards me - check
Noctifera: like if you feel hot and cold now, you can feel hot and prickly, or hot and dizzy
Kitsune: sometimes I see sparks where their enregy is
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Noctifera: cold and flat, cold and buzzing etc
arianna: for the record, I see shodows and movent and stuff shimmering regularly, so I'm pretty much failing in getting much more than I'd unintentionally get otherwise.
ennaralee: I can't see him move but I do sense movement and get an idea of what they are doing. For instance as I was typing this He waved his and I got the feeling of :see you got this" lol
Phantom_of_the_arts: It's ok, is the exercise over tho?
DogStarRising: sometimes it takes a lot of energy for them to show thenselves and depends on how easily you see. I think akelta's tip about looking for movement is really a good one.
Ymirson: Yes Noc I feel that too, some feel prickly or electric, some feel more solid..I shoud note the differences..
Noctifera: definitely, you'd be pleasantly surprised at the patterns you find!
Noctifera: to me that's been the most fascinating part of my journey and probably what I've worked the most with, discernment of energy
Akelta: @Enna that is really good and you can develop that ability sense it a really powerful one that can open up a lot of interactions.
Noctifera: it is a foundation to so much more
Ymirson: I do give them energy offerings as well, that seems to help in feeling them
Noctifera: that makes sense
Akelta: @Phantom we have another one to do physical sight
Ammy: I saw him move but it was like there was a delay. one second he was by the door then he was 3 feet closer to me all of a sudden
Ammy: I saw him move but it was like there was a delay. one second he was by the door then he was 3 feet closer to me all of a sudden
polyana005: what about the astral sight???
AuroraDragon: I think I can see him with my third eye, He looks almost like a four eyed german shepard, but it's like there are two pictures one of this plane and one of the parallel where he is on and they kinda overlap? If that makes sesn
Kitsune: LOL. I had asked him to sit on a chair and my cat jumps up and takes the chair XD
Phantom_of_the_arts: Ooh I'm excited
Noctifera: lol Kitsune maybe the cat heard you
Akelta: @ Noc, Discernment of energies is really important as I find it is such a huge area and there is really a limitless amount of energies to uncover.
Noctifera: the other morning I was laying in bed with the dog, I heard a voice 'I'm hungry' and looked over to see my pup staring me down knocking me with his paws.. its so cool to hear your pet's 'voice' lol
Noctifera: oh yeah absolutely
Ammy: very cool noc!
OrderandChaos: So, what's the next step of your third eye excersises Akelta? =O
Noctifera: he sounds like a little boy and he is a little boy XD
OrderandChaos: XDD Noc
Akelta: @Aurora, that is awesome, let your mind play with the image and just allow it to come to you. I find it is best not to judge and just allow the energies to come to you. That is awesome!
Akelta: We can take this to astral sight if you want to, astral sight is a step up from this exercise that we are doing.
Noctifera: yay the astral
Noctifera: my body is ready
Noctifera: lol
AuroraDragon: Sorry don't mean to be rude but how long does this last? The more I try the more the kittens cuddle up to me and I fear I may pass out =/
Akelta: ok astral sight, it is a gatway to astral projection so it does require a shift in mind I can share with you what I do to get there so that you cna practise.
DogStarRising: thank you for sharing Akelta. I always like to hear how people do these things. Trying different ways will help you find what you connect with.
ennaralee: yes please
Kitsune: XD my cat's eyeing G now
Akelta: @ Aurora, learning to work with the energies of the third eye can be draining. I use to have to take naps when I was leanring as it would drain me so badly. I find the best thing to do when you are feeling tired. close your eyes and take some deep breaths and ground and just focus on your body firmly on the earth.
Akelta: You are welcome Dog Star! I like it when people have amazing experiences with their spiritual companions so the more knowledge we share the better
LilinMira28: all im getting is a dark shadow against the full circumferance of the door and a tingily and pressure in my forehead...that good or not?
DogStarRising: definitely
arianna: ok, I may have missed the beginning of the first excersice, in which case I may have been trying to see in a different way than what we were trying to do. So, for clarification purposes, how were we trying to see so far?
Dalek_Faye: Hmm, I've got images in my mind pretty clearly, but as far as actually seeing anything in front of the door, just the usual flashes and ripples.
Akelta: @ lilin, that is good, the pressure is your third eye translating and working with the energies, just if it starts to get uncomfortable close your eyes and ground your energies.
AuroraDragon: It doesn't help when you have tiny purring fuzz balls next to you either xD
Phantom_of_the_arts: I can't wait for the physical exercise :3
DogStarRising: about the breathing, I breathe in with my mouth and get new energy. Breathe out through my nose to expel old energy.
Akelta: @ Dalek, this exercise is mostly for the spiritual sight, we will be doing physical sight after we do astral sight.
Dalek_Faye: I can't wait for the touching exercizes.
Dalek_Faye: Ah okay.
Huffette721 has joined.
Akelta: @ Dog star thank you that is a very important point, breath is important and there are many different techniques to try with breathing.
DogStarRising: yw
Akelta: @ Ari - we were going spiritual sight and seeing them in our minds
arianna: ah, ok, then I was definitely frustrated and trying to do something else, lol
polyana005: pls, the astral sight already...
Akelta: ok astral sight. With astral sight now I can just shift between states but I use to prepare myself for the shift.
Akelta: I liked to challenge myself so I would ask a group of my guys to sit around me, but having one is good.
Akelta: I would get comfortable and relax sinking my energies deeply into the ground and focusing on my breathing. as Dog Star mentioned his method of breathing before, breath is important, I use to take deep breaths and focus on the air filling my lungs.
Noctifera: back, I was gone a moment
Akelta: I would enter into an almost hypnotic state with that.
Akelta: Once I was in a relaxed state I would then turn my attention to what was going on around me and let my third eye slip into the astral state and then I was still in my body but I could see them walking about and interacting with each other and also interacting with me.
LilinMira28: yea hes being stubborn...all im getting is shadows
polyana005: is this done with physical eyes open or closed???
Dalek_Faye: "slip into the astral state"?
Akelta: @ lilin shadows can be a good start, these exercises can take practise and I find the best way is to have fun when doing them, dont get frustrated with yourself just relax and see how far it can go
arianna: Not trying to be a pain in the *ss here, but could you please explain the difference between the first excercise and this one?
Huffette721: Could that be the state I go to when I go to the dragon or unicorn realm?
Akelta: @ Polyana I have done both, I would suggest trying wit both and seeing which ones works best. eyes closed can help you with focus, focus and concentration is the key for changing the state of the mind.
Noctifera: from my own experience the biggest suggestion I can make for beginners to astral viewing, sight and journeying is not to second guess what you see, let the scenery flow and always make a note of how it appears to you.. like keep track of how you see it each time, so you can learn about the place you are viewing
OrderandChaos: Closed eyes promote Alpha brainwaves and thus a more relaxed state.
arianna: cause I'm not really sure how people see in their minds if they aren't using their astral sight. Or at least I can't do it otherwise, unless someone is actively projecting stuff at me for me to see.
DogStarRising: you're great at explaining, Akelta. The relaxing part is important. It's not about making it happen. It's about letting it happen. We are actually blocking these things out most of the time.
Noctifera: I know it can be tedious but y'all really should keep dream journals and astral/meditation journals because you will notice things when you read back to your experiences..
Akelta: @ Dalek - when you are in that relaxed state you slow down your brain waves and you need to entere a different mind state the astral state is close to the Theta state.
Ymirson: that is true Noc, journalling is key as it opens you up more and your recall and capture more..
OrderandChaos: So, really low Alpha Akelta?
Noctifera: heres what I really wanted to say that I just remembered, lol, wherever you 'go' whatever you see if its consistent at all when you astral travel, that could be what I might call one's 'home base' or your own astral sphere.. and you can use your memories of it to help you to travel more easily.. like trigger images
Akelta: @ Dog star, thank you so much and yes that is so true, often it is our own expectations that end up blocking us and also getting frustrated with ourselves. Just let the energies flow and roll with it.
Noctifera: like if there is a particular color combination that always comes up
Noctifera: you can use it as a resonator to induce astral visions/travel
-not many people think of that which is why its an important little tidbit
Akelta: @ Ari - the first exercise you are letting your third eye gather information and translate it in your mind, the second exercise you are changing your brain state so that you can see what is going on in the astral around you.
Huffette721: Noc, what i a resonator?
Akelta: Journaling is so important!
Noctifera: something you can remember or feel from your previous astral travels, something that 'puts you back' there
DogStarRising: it is a good idea to have a home base loke you said Noctifera
Noctifera: like nostalgia
DogStarRising: like*
Noctifera: yeah for sure
arianna: Ah, ok. Maybe I don't see much of a difference cause I can change my my brain state very quickly, so trying to perceive a spirit will automatically change my mental state in seconds anyway.
ennaralee: this exersice I am having trouble with because it is hard to focus on it and chat but I have copied and pasted for a later time
Ymirson: Also I found is to use the media your resonate with in your journal, like if you write or draw, or paint, the messages translate and flow easier, if that makes sense. Work with your natural media
Noctifera: as an example, I separate my vision work and travel between colors/textures of portals I use..
LilinMira28: well i saw his form in a shadow
aubrey: I hope it's ok if I just jump right in here. I used to use my crystals to focus when I wanted to astral travel. Now laterly it seems like I have been having a harder time concentrating.
Noctifera: this helps so that I always connect to the right portal that gets me the info I am looking for
OrderandChaos: I see Noc
Noctifera: and its not the same across the board it can be different for each person.. so making note of your personal resonators and associations and experiences, is important..
Huffette721: Is astral projection essential for conjuration?
Noctifera: sorry didnt mean to interrupt! lol
DogStarRising: I'm seeing an entity that I have not called or seen before. A black horse and I think he is vampiric.
Akelta: Yes I agree time is tight. sorry I missed some of the questions.
Akelta: @ Ari - yes when you get good at it the brain naturally changes state so that is probably what is happening with you
DogStarRising: I don't know what that entity would be. THere are lots of horse types
Akelta: That is awesome DogStar!
this is so true there are so many differet species out there, it is a journey in itself categorizing them.
DogStarRising: yes awesome
Noctifera: the horse doesnt have a horn or wings at all? I have a karkadann (dark unicorn) and a dark pegasus from hades, that reminds me of them
aubrey: I saw a black horse once - it brought death. That's just my circumstance though. Your may be something entirely different.
Akelta: @ Huffette - It makes things easie I find, I like being able to astral to the beings realms I am conjuring and checking them out.
DogStarRising: he is a guide into a world I am supposed to visit.
Kitsune: there was a vapirirc being I remember reading about that could take the form of a horse....wait, an aswang?
shadowdust: nightmare?
Akelta: How are you guys doing with the astral sight exercise?
arianna: btw I can see how this is closely related to astral projection. Cause right now I can actually feel my astral body being loose inside my physical body, and it has chosen a spot to use on my body to get out cause I can feel the pressure.
DogStarRising: I burned some frankincense and did the breathing exercise and started to see him
aubrey: When I saw the black horse it was a vision.
Akelta: Exactly Ari!! that is how you can shift from astral sight to astral projection
Noctifera: I didn't push very hard with my astral exercise as I have a bunch of astral work to do later tonight and don't want to exhaust myself going on adventures lolol
DogStarRising: aswang can shapeshift, that is a good possibility
Noctifera: once I get going I will just lose hours of time doing it
arianna: yeah, this is also exactly where I usually get stuck, lol
Noctifera: lol
Akelta: @ Noc that is exciting yeah I have some meditation work to do tonight as well it is amazing how fast time flies! LOL
Dalek_Faye: That does happen... plan to just spend 30 mins working with someone, when I'm done it's 4 hours later..
Noctifera: indeed!
DogStarRising: yes! I get lost exploring and then I don't get my work done.
DogStarRising: I need someone to type while I talk
Noctifera: not enough time in the day, I say
Noctifera: and its the best time of the year
Akelta: Ok I did split this chat into two session, so Sunday will be hearing and touching, but we have one more exercise for today with sight
Huffette721: I kinda wonder if that i not what I am doing when I go into a state and see auras and can see a person's life, past and future
Akelta: ok the final exercise
-Physical sight
Akelta: Ask one of your companions to go and stand on that spot you have selected and stay there while you work to see them.
Akelta: Awesome!! I have seen my nurse in full manifestation she is amazing! I see her walking around the house, she gets along really well with my Mutilation Demoness
DogStarRising: thank you Akelta, I'm going to go and keep working on this. Thanks for the inspiration
Akelta: THis will be posted on S&S and I guess we can post it on CH too
Huffette721: Aubrey, the first one I say, scared me
Huffette721: I wa s just a child
DogStarRising: bye everyone Enjoy!
arianna: May I say it's extremely annoying that I have to figure out how I can see each type of spirit separately? Why can't I just learn to see one kind and then all the others can be visible right away after that?
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Akelta: First gaze at the area where they are standing. Take in three deep breaths and just focus.
Noctifera: like unlocking a secret code arianna lol
it should be that way
aubrey: Huffette721, how did you learn - did you just start seeing them?
Ymirson: like an attunement to their energies
Akelta: @ Ari that is a really good point depending on where they are conjured from and their realm they can exist at different frequencies and so attuning your energy to them helps to see them
Huffette721: It was a gift I was born with
Dalek_Faye: Imagine if just seeing one spirit meant you could see all of them ari? You have any idea what you'd be seeing?
Dalek_Faye: Brain = explode.
Huffette721: like seeing and hearing things
Akelta: Pay attention to anything you see weather it be wavy lines or a haze or just a sense that they are there, just take a moment and register what you see with your physical eyes. It may just appear as some wavy lines or as a haze, it depends. The more you practice this the easier it will become
Noctifera: I am already starting to see her
Kitsune: I just saw a bright flash XD
arianna: I may be able to see them in my mind, but physically seeing them is a different animal. I have to figure out each species separately for some reason.
Akelta: Try to get a visual of the energies that they are giving off. Try to sense their presence and energies with you third eye and try to see if you can see their energies standing there
Akelta: Ask your familiar to move or do something and see if your can detect that movement and see what they are doing. See if you can see any wavy lines move or a fuzzy movement. It is different for everyone and visual with the physical eyes can take a bit to develop.
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rianna: wavy lines is what I got tonight. And movement. and a flash of what must have been a hand.
Kitsune: spots of color and fuzzy dust
OrderandChaos: Akelta, will one need to login to the S&S forum to be able to see the transcripts?
Akelta: Perfect Kitsune!
Huffette721: Arianna, you can build upon that
Ymirson: sparkles
arianna: I want a full manifestation! *stomps foot on ground*
Noctifera: she lifted something up.. I'm laughing because I think it's her knife
Noctifera: when I asked 'hey move something'
OrderandChaos: Or can anyone view them, signed up or not?
Akelta: @ Order yes I think we have the chats in a section of the forum that requires login
Noctifera: she is actually talking to me telepathically telling me what she is doing now, which I am telling her defeats the purpose.. its funny
Akelta: This is true full manifestations you can build upon and they can take time
Akelta: LOL that is hilarious!
Noctifera: telepathy is I guess my stronger ability I hear them very clearly, a strange contrast
ennaralee: I got a translucent outline of shoulders
Huffette721: I see full manifestations and hear ful on conversations with my spirits and the dead
Akelta: @Enna that is perfect!
Noctifera: I can see her vaguely like an outline so it is as a translucent form of herself
arianna: ok, I got a.... I don't know what this would be called. Not outline exactly, more like a white energy version of the spirit I'm trying to see.
ennaralee: I got a translucent outline of shoulders
Huffette721: I see full manifestations and hear ful on conversations with my spirits and the dead
Akelta: @Enna that is perfect!
Noctifera: I can see her vaguely like an outline so it is as a translucent form of herself
arianna: ok, I got a.... I don't know what this would be called. Not outline exactly, more like a white energy version of the spirit I'm trying to see.
ennaralee: like he is leaning against the stairs with his arms folded. lol
Akelta: @ Ari that is the first layer of their aura and perfect!
LilinMira28: i saw a jaw...with a mouth moving
arianna: oh, then great
Akelta: @ Enna awesome! yes as you expand your sight you can see them doing things or taking actions or walking around it is awesome
LilinMira28: for a split second
Akelta: yes, this is all we are going to do tonight
polyana005: thnx. How often does one have to practice the last one (physcial) in order to improve the seeing ability?
arianna: And I realized one of the issues was that the spirit didn't stick to the size he usually appears to me, and he decided to show up with wings. For like the first time ever, lol
Noctifera: I asked her to walk towards me and my vision went like static and I felt her energy pummeling into me, and now I'm too lazy to focus anymore because I can feel her here lol
Phantom_of_the_arts: Ah well thank you for the amazing information!
Akelta: Sunday we will be having the second half which is Hearing and Sensing
Dalek_Faye: Okay lemmie see if I got this right..
Noctifera: but its a really great exercise it actually challenges me to be patient and focus when im all full of chaos
Akelta: @ poly - I suggest having a daily spiritual routine for development
Phantom_of_the_arts: What time Akelta?
Akelta: @ Ari - that happens sometimes you start to see them more in depth and see more features
polyana005: ok. thanx a lot
Dalek_Faye: Third eye sight: Focusing on the third eye and picking up on the energy of the spirits to get images in your mind.
Akelta: @ Phanton - 9am PST
