Re: Godspousery: The Mystery of the Hieros Gamos
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 4:58 am
Well, it did occur to me that some of what I do is opposite to the advice Mama Raven gives at the beginning of this discussion, and when I realised that I read through her advice a second time. Still, this is my favourite subject and I can't resist an opportunity to talk about it.
When I was handfasted to Cernunnos I didn't tell anyone about it, especially not Wiccans and Pagans who might think it was disrespectful to their tradition and that handfasting is only for human beings. Cernunnos did have work he wanted me to do, connected with being a High Priestess on the astral plane during meditations. I wouldn't have pretended to be a High Priestess on the Earth because that wouldn't have been true unless I undertook the appropriate training.
The Holly King continued this and he was more focussed on sending power down to the Earth. He is one of the entities Father Christmas is based on and he wanted to send down 'goodwill to all strangers.' He didn't want to say ' goodwill to all men' like the Christians do, because he thought it was too much to ask of humans to have goodwill to someone who is already an enemy. It is more appropriate If they avoid making any more enemies by always having goodwill to strangers. We did that for a while at the end of our ceremonies, and I suppose that was the spiritual aim of our partnership. Not like 'being his hands' but it stood for something.
It's true that the demon lords are different from gods and that's why I said they seem to be on a different wavelength. I have been in a couple of internet groups led by ladies where the leader said she was married to Lucifer. Ok so there is no need for me to say it as well- and actually I don't, I have never said that to anyone. I have been in love with Bune, Marbas and Lucifer but they don't treat it as hieros gamos or godspousery and they are as I said mainly focussed on teaching human beings. Also on making contracts with them, and these are more like work contracts than anything else.
I'm sure you're right Heretique about a call to work with the energies of different beings. I do admire those who spend their whole life working with the same being, but it must be we all get different calls.
When I was handfasted to Cernunnos I didn't tell anyone about it, especially not Wiccans and Pagans who might think it was disrespectful to their tradition and that handfasting is only for human beings. Cernunnos did have work he wanted me to do, connected with being a High Priestess on the astral plane during meditations. I wouldn't have pretended to be a High Priestess on the Earth because that wouldn't have been true unless I undertook the appropriate training.
The Holly King continued this and he was more focussed on sending power down to the Earth. He is one of the entities Father Christmas is based on and he wanted to send down 'goodwill to all strangers.' He didn't want to say ' goodwill to all men' like the Christians do, because he thought it was too much to ask of humans to have goodwill to someone who is already an enemy. It is more appropriate If they avoid making any more enemies by always having goodwill to strangers. We did that for a while at the end of our ceremonies, and I suppose that was the spiritual aim of our partnership. Not like 'being his hands' but it stood for something.
It's true that the demon lords are different from gods and that's why I said they seem to be on a different wavelength. I have been in a couple of internet groups led by ladies where the leader said she was married to Lucifer. Ok so there is no need for me to say it as well- and actually I don't, I have never said that to anyone. I have been in love with Bune, Marbas and Lucifer but they don't treat it as hieros gamos or godspousery and they are as I said mainly focussed on teaching human beings. Also on making contracts with them, and these are more like work contracts than anything else.
I'm sure you're right Heretique about a call to work with the energies of different beings. I do admire those who spend their whole life working with the same being, but it must be we all get different calls.